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		<title>By: Jose Aviles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose Aviles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, thanks for your reply. I should have let you know, This is being done because I am getting a divorse and I want my wife to stay with the house so I also want to remove my name from the mortgage as well. Her lawyer was talking about some type of Simultaneous Purchase Transaction Refinance on the mortgage, but I don&#039;t know what that is?Can you explain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, thanks for your reply. I should have let you know, This is being done because I am getting a divorse and I want my wife to stay with the house so I also want to remove my name from the mortgage as well. Her lawyer was talking about some type of Simultaneous Purchase Transaction Refinance on the mortgage, but I don&#8217;t know what that is?Can you explain?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jose-

Let me see if I understand your facts. . .  You have two properties under one mortgage.  You want to see one property and apply the proceeds to the mortgage.  Correct?

There are two possible answers to your question.  EITHER the bank will simply allow the transaction, because you are going to use the cash to pay down the mortgage.  Or, this transaction may already be permitted under your mortgage.  You would have to read your mortgage.  It appears that you might have a cross-collateral loan.  Frankly, without having the documents to review, I cannot give you a complete answer.  However, I cannot imagine a good reason for the bank to oppose your transaction..

Now, if you intended to use the closing proceeds for some reason other than reducing the mortgage debt, the bank would likely refuse.

Hope that helps.


-Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose-</p>
<p>Let me see if I understand your facts. . .  You have two properties under one mortgage.  You want to see one property and apply the proceeds to the mortgage.  Correct?</p>
<p>There are two possible answers to your question.  EITHER the bank will simply allow the transaction, because you are going to use the cash to pay down the mortgage.  Or, this transaction may already be permitted under your mortgage.  You would have to read your mortgage.  It appears that you might have a cross-collateral loan.  Frankly, without having the documents to review, I cannot give you a complete answer.  However, I cannot imagine a good reason for the bank to oppose your transaction..</p>
<p>Now, if you intended to use the closing proceeds for some reason other than reducing the mortgage debt, the bank would likely refuse.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
<p>-Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Aviles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose Aviles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 15:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two lot (house &amp; empty Lot)Ther are two seperate PIN for each of them but only one mortgage. I want to sell the empty lot by itself to pay off 1/2 the mortgage. Is this possible without having to refinance into the house again? Will this type of purchase transection cause delay upon payoff? How or which way is the best way to deal with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two lot (house &amp; empty Lot)Ther are two seperate PIN for each of them but only one mortgage. I want to sell the empty lot by itself to pay off 1/2 the mortgage. Is this possible without having to refinance into the house again? Will this type of purchase transection cause delay upon payoff? How or which way is the best way to deal with this?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt does not use only one title company.  However, Chicago Title has done very well on deals small to large.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt does not use only one title company.  However, Chicago Title has done very well on deals small to large.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna71</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible to get the name of Matt&#039;s title company?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to get the name of Matt&#8217;s title company?</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 22:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shai-

That&#039;s a great question.  Actually, there are several questions involved here.

Fistly, where is this building?  What state?  What town?  I&#039;d need more information, but my first question concerns the zoning.  Mixed use properties generally require a variance or special zoning.  You might have the current owner seek a variance or rezone the property.  Or you rezone it now with the seller&#039;s permission.  If you can&#039;t get the rezoning, then you walk away from the purchase.

If you get the zoning, you&#039;ll need to create a corporation (in most states) to serve as the governing building association.  Or, you can sometimes organize a condominium through contracts.  In either case, you&#039;ll need a plat, new legal descriptions, new deeds, a set of rules or governing documents, etc.   Again, I&#039;d need to know whether you live to give you a detailed answer.

As to the 203-k fha loan, I&#039;d suggest you ask a mortgage broker.  In fact, see the blog post about the HomePath loan program and contact Mickey Brooks.  He can help you with details on specific loan programs.

In theory, when you rezone the building, you are creating two seperate properties with seperate legal descriptions- the living unit and the commercial space.  So, in theory, you&#039;re buying two properties simultaneously.  To be more precise, your non-profit is buying one unit and you are buying the living unit in the same building on the same day.  If your seller is willing to work with you, you can create two purchase agreements that are contingent on full performance of each other.  A good real estate lawyer and a good loan broker can make this work for you.

Best of luck.

Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shai-</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a great question.  Actually, there are several questions involved here.</p>
<p>Fistly, where is this building?  What state?  What town?  I&#8217;d need more information, but my first question concerns the zoning.  Mixed use properties generally require a variance or special zoning.  You might have the current owner seek a variance or rezone the property.  Or you rezone it now with the seller&#8217;s permission.  If you can&#8217;t get the rezoning, then you walk away from the purchase.</p>
<p>If you get the zoning, you&#8217;ll need to create a corporation (in most states) to serve as the governing building association.  Or, you can sometimes organize a condominium through contracts.  In either case, you&#8217;ll need a plat, new legal descriptions, new deeds, a set of rules or governing documents, etc.   Again, I&#8217;d need to know whether you live to give you a detailed answer.</p>
<p>As to the 203-k fha loan, I&#8217;d suggest you ask a mortgage broker.  In fact, see the blog post about the HomePath loan program and contact Mickey Brooks.  He can help you with details on specific loan programs.</p>
<p>In theory, when you rezone the building, you are creating two seperate properties with seperate legal descriptions- the living unit and the commercial space.  So, in theory, you&#8217;re buying two properties simultaneously.  To be more precise, your non-profit is buying one unit and you are buying the living unit in the same building on the same day.  If your seller is willing to work with you, you can create two purchase agreements that are contingent on full performance of each other.  A good real estate lawyer and a good loan broker can make this work for you.</p>
<p>Best of luck.</p>
<p>Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Shai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 00:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 3 story,  mixed use property we&#039;re looking to purchase with our non-profit corp.  What I&#039;d like to do is convert the 3rd floor to a condo, and sell it to ourselves as private individuals. 

 I&#039;d like to purchase the condo with 203-k fha loan, and close both transactions simultaneously.  

Then I wouldn&#039;t have to get funding on the commercial property because we have 10% to put down on it, and the amount we&#039;d need to finance would be the same as the purchase price on the condo.

Is this legal?  Are there title companies who still do double closes?  I know it used to be fairly common to do deals of this sort, but I&#039;ve been having trouble finding anyone who can advise me on this transaction.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 3 story,  mixed use property we&#8217;re looking to purchase with our non-profit corp.  What I&#8217;d like to do is convert the 3rd floor to a condo, and sell it to ourselves as private individuals. </p>
<p> I&#8217;d like to purchase the condo with 203-k fha loan, and close both transactions simultaneously.  </p>
<p>Then I wouldn&#8217;t have to get funding on the commercial property because we have 10% to put down on it, and the amount we&#8217;d need to finance would be the same as the purchase price on the condo.</p>
<p>Is this legal?  Are there title companies who still do double closes?  I know it used to be fairly common to do deals of this sort, but I&#8217;ve been having trouble finding anyone who can advise me on this transaction.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I have this figured out now... Tell me what you think. The banks title compnay pulls title. I have my title compnay pull title too. This gets around the same underwriter policy issue as my title company has done their own due diligence. Then I just have the banks title company send over the closing docs and instructions to close. It gets overnighted to my title, I sign, and they overnight everything back to the banks title. The only down side I can see is I will be paying for the banks title search, my title search and the title search between me and my buyer. This should allow me to complete a double closing at my title company, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I have this figured out now&#8230; Tell me what you think. The banks title compnay pulls title. I have my title compnay pull title too. This gets around the same underwriter policy issue as my title company has done their own due diligence. Then I just have the banks title company send over the closing docs and instructions to close. It gets overnighted to my title, I sign, and they overnight everything back to the banks title. The only down side I can see is I will be paying for the banks title search, my title search and the title search between me and my buyer. This should allow me to complete a double closing at my title company, right?</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin-

A title search is akin to a professional service.  One title company would not want to rely on the work of another title company, with one issuring the work of the other.

Let me make an anology to explain this further.  If your CPA prepared your tax return, another CPA would not guarantee the quality of that accounting work without knowing everything that was done to prepare the return.  The second CPA would be a fool to insure the work of another CPA.  So, the second CPA is going to do all the same work the first CPA did in order to be certain that the tax return is correct.

Title companies are in a similar situation.  The search could be dione well or poorly.  The only way a title company knows if a title search is accurate is to do the title search itself.

I&#039;ve never seen one title company guarantee the accuracy of a title search done by another title company.  It appears that is the issue here.

Hope that helps.

Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin-</p>
<p>A title search is akin to a professional service.  One title company would not want to rely on the work of another title company, with one issuring the work of the other.</p>
<p>Let me make an anology to explain this further.  If your CPA prepared your tax return, another CPA would not guarantee the quality of that accounting work without knowing everything that was done to prepare the return.  The second CPA would be a fool to insure the work of another CPA.  So, the second CPA is going to do all the same work the first CPA did in order to be certain that the tax return is correct.</p>
<p>Title companies are in a similar situation.  The search could be dione well or poorly.  The only way a title company knows if a title search is accurate is to do the title search itself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen one title company guarantee the accuracy of a title search done by another title company.  It appears that is the issue here.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
<p>Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt, 

Thanks for the reply. I am set to close on Tuesday. The double closing is not the issue. My title company understands what I&#039;m doing and they are fine with it. 

The issue that I had difficulty with was with the banks title company. I want them to pull title and insure it. However, I want to use my title company like a title company would use a mobile closer. They (the banks title comp.) overnights the closing docs to my title company, and my title company watches me sign and collects the funds. My title company then overnights the docs back to the banks title company and wires the funds to the bank. 

This did not happen. The banks title company, after pulling title and getting the deed recorded,  canceled the title they pulled. However, I just want to use their title work, but just close at my title company. Isn&#039;t this how mobile closings are done? Anyway, my title company will issue the title now, but I have to pay for the banks title work. While this is understandable, I&#039;m having difficulty understanding why closing at my title comp is such a big deal if I&#039;m using the banks title work.  I hope this helps somewhat and thanks for the advice... 

Dustin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt, </p>
<p>Thanks for the reply. I am set to close on Tuesday. The double closing is not the issue. My title company understands what I&#8217;m doing and they are fine with it. </p>
<p>The issue that I had difficulty with was with the banks title company. I want them to pull title and insure it. However, I want to use my title company like a title company would use a mobile closer. They (the banks title comp.) overnights the closing docs to my title company, and my title company watches me sign and collects the funds. My title company then overnights the docs back to the banks title company and wires the funds to the bank. </p>
<p>This did not happen. The banks title company, after pulling title and getting the deed recorded,  canceled the title they pulled. However, I just want to use their title work, but just close at my title company. Isn&#8217;t this how mobile closings are done? Anyway, my title company will issue the title now, but I have to pay for the banks title work. While this is understandable, I&#8217;m having difficulty understanding why closing at my title comp is such a big deal if I&#8217;m using the banks title work.  I hope this helps somewhat and thanks for the advice&#8230; </p>
<p>Dustin</p>
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